Subject: QUANTUM-MIND Digest - 20 Dec 1999 to 24 Dec 1999 (#1999-123) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 00:00:35 -0700 There are 10 messages totalling 1044 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. [q-mind] Quantum Superluminal Communication and Superposition (Experimental aspects) - Fred Thaheld 2. [q-mind] Three examples for understanding quantum motion - Gao Shan 3. [q-mind] The hard problem - Chris Lofting 4. [q-mind] Response to Vecchi re Superpositioning - Scott Bowden 5. [q-mind] Reply to G Stone re Human vision - Scott Bowden 6. [q-mind] Breaking the paradigm - Dave Chamberlain 7. [q-mind] Beyond rational? (Reply to Nixon) - Peter Mutnick 8. [q-mind] The Super-Implicate Order (Reply to Lofting) - Peter Mutnick 9. [q-mind] Bohm theory and motion (Reply to Gao-Shan) - Peter Mutnick 10. [q-mind] New ideas please - John Cowley ============================================ Contributions distributed to this list are automatically archived at http://listserv.arizona.edu/lsv/www/quantum-mind.html ============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 06:02:20 -0700 From: Stuart Hameroff Subject: [q-mind] Three examples for understanding quantum motion - Gao Shan >From Gao Shan gaoshan.iqm@263.net Three examples for understanding quantum motion: atomic stability, double-slit experiment and Schrodinger's cat Gao Shan Institute of Quantum Mechanics 11-10, NO.10 Building, YueTan XiJie DongLi, XiCheng District Beijing 100045, P.R.China E-mail: gaoshan.iqm@263.net [abstract] We show that the discontinuous motion of particle can naturally and objectively explain the atomic stability and double-slit interference pattern, and solve the Schr\"{o}dinger's cat paradox. [Introduction] In order to deeply understand the discontinuous motion of particle[4,5,6], we will discuss three famous examples indispensable for understanding quantum mechanics, and show that the discontinuous motion of particle indeed presents a clear unified realistic picture for the microscopic world and macroscopic world. [Atomic stability] Fist, we will analyze the origin of the atomic stability, a simple situation is the base state of Hydrogen atom, its position distribution density, which can be found through position measurements, is written as follows: \begin{equation}\rho(\mathbf{x})=|\psi(\mathbf{x})|^2=\frac{4}{a_0}\cdot{exp(- \frac{2r}{a_0})}\end{equation} According to the discontinuous motion of particle, at any instant the electron will be in only one position in space, but during a very small time interval $\Delta t $, or even infinitesimal time interval dt(only for CSTM), the electron will move throughout the whole space where the above function does not equal to zero, and its position measure density will be the same as the above position probability density obtained from the wave function, thus during a very small time interval $\Delta t $, or even infinitesimal time interval dt(only for CSTM), the charge distribution of the whole system will be equivalent to the zero charge distribution, and there exists no change of the whole charge distribution either, so it can be easily understood that no energy is radiated during finite time interval, as well as during infinitesimal time interval, this is just the objective origin of the mysterious stability in the atomic world. [Double-slit experiment] The second example is double-slit experiment, people have been trying to understand the formation process of the double-slit interference pattern objectively, but few people can give a clear ontological description for it, which bases only on the motion of particle, the essential reason, as we think, is that most people ignored the essential difference between instant and infinitesimal time interval or finite time interval. By means of the discontinuous motion of particle, the mystery of this process can be disclosed, the real process should be that the particle undergoing the discontinuous motion passes through both slits in the double-slit experiment, this means that the particle is still in only one of the two slits at any instant, but during a very small time interval $\Delta t $, or even infinitesimal time interval dt(only for CSTM), the particle moves throughout both slits and passes through them, and the position measure density of the particle always satisfies the function $\rho(\mathbf{x},t)=|\psi(\mathbf{x},t)|^2$, which is finite in both slits, since the particle undergoing the discontinuous motion can pass through both slits in this objective way, we can understand the formation of the double-slit interference pattern, which is not a simple mixture of two one-slit interference patterns. [Schr\"{o}dinger's cat] Since the evolution of the discontinuous motion of particle will naturally result in the dynamical collapse process of the wave function describing the discontinuous motion[5,6], the Schr\"{o}dinger's cat paradox will be objectively solved in terms of the discontinuous motion of particle. As we know, cat is a macroscopic complex open system, the energy difference $\Delta E$ between different space branches of its wave function, for example, the living branch and dead branch, will be very large due to the environmental effects such as thermal energy fluctuations, thus according to the evolution law of the discontinuous motion (DSTM), the collapse time will be $\tau_{c} \cong \frac{\hbar E_{p}}{(\Delta E)^{2}}$ (This result has also been obtained by Hughston[7] and Fivel[3] from different point of views, and discussed by Adler etc[1,2]), and the superposition of the living branch and dead branch will collapse to one of the branches very soon owing to the very large value of $\Delta E$, say when $\Delta E \approx 7Gev$ we have $\tau_{c}\approx 10^{-6}s$, then the cat can only be in the living state or dead state, and its superposition state hasn't even been completely formed before the collapse process finished, this solves the Schr\"{o}dinger's cat paradox. [Conclusions] We show that the stability of atom and formation of double-slit interference pattern can be objectively explained, and the Schr\"{o}dinger's cat paradox can be naturally solved in terms of the discontinuous motion of particle. [1]S.L.Adler, L.P.Horwitz, e-print quant-ph/9904048, (1999) [2]S.L.Adler, L.P.Horwitz, e-print quant-ph/9909026, (1999) [3]D.I.Fivel, e-print quant-ph/9710042, (1997) [4]Gao Shan, e-print physics/9907001, (1999) [5]Gao Shan, e-print physics/9907002, (1999) [6]Gao Shan, Quantum-Mind Digest, 20 Dec 1999 (1999) [7]L.P.Hughston, Proc.Roy.Soc.Lond.A, 452,953 (1996) ------------------------------